Force Feminizing a Female (TS). .What is a transsexual?

Many people in this group have no idea what a transsexual is or how you could possibly force feminize a genetic female. The idea that seems to be the norm is that the people who come here are males looking to be forced in to panties and heels and are sissies or cross dressers.

Yes that is part of this group that is probably at least half of the people here but not the whole. Many of us are not males looking to be dressed up; we are women looking to have someone take away the androgynous and masculine parts of us away.

For example, you have a girl who was raised by a single father who was taught to work the farm and spit chew in a can. She may deep down wish to be a pretty princess but due to fears or doubts not allow herself to do it. A Mistress of Master steps in and makes her in to a flashy dress wearing, make up applying, girly-girl. That is an example though very basic, of force feminizing a genetic female.

For a transsexual it is much the same. We, despite having been born with a penis or a male voice or being raised as males, were never at all male other than maybe physically. Our brains, our hormones, our thoughts, our souls, are female. Many of us are born borderline hermaphrodites or full on hermaphrodites to begin with.

We are looking for someone to help correct the ideals and stereotypical man dribble that was pushed on to us by peers, family, or for some, religious beliefs. We want the parts of us that were forced to be male, taken and replaced by the female equivalent.
Teach us how to walk, talk, sit, do our hair, makeup, and be a passable lady.

Now some smart-ass read that and said, "Well how is that forced?" The post before should have already answered that question but I will go ahead and restate it a second time for anyone still genuinely confused.

If you are raised to be a stone hard man and never cry, but are a female on the inside, those ideals still get instilled over time. So when you come out as being female you will still bottle the emotions up and refuse to cry most of the time. So the person who is feminizing you will help to FORCE that idea away and telling "just cry... let go...” Since these things are so engrained in to us from early child hood when being raised "male" much of it has to be forced out even if we understand we want it.

I was forced to give up all my male clothing, I have wanted to do it for a long time, but have been giving myself excuse after excuse not to do it. Finally, Mistress Mary forced me to it.

I, We, Transsexuals, are not men, or boys, or bois, or gurls, we are females just like any other female. So when addressing a post, please keep that in mind, thank you.

Can't all the TRANSGENDER folk just get along!

^-- We tried it your way but the polar bears were indecisive.... all joking aside... who isn't getting along again? I was explaining the fact that some people on this group assume if you are a part of it you are instantly the equivalent of a cross dresser, which to some is an atrocious notion. It is insulting to us not because there is anything wrong with cross dressers or cross dressing, but it equates to us being seen as male which is a stab in the throat. I tackled the subject very lightly though, as you can see no one has really felt the need to outburst in anger or troll me for what I have said. As for your second comment, you are a bit right and a bit wrong; many transsexuals have genetic female organs or an extra chromosome that allows them to get their hormones and surgeries covered by health insurance. There is a distinct difference between a male and female brain, and a large percentage of transsexual women at the very least have a female brain that tells the body it is wrong and is why the suicide rate is so high. It is not something you CAN just get over.

Sorry if that turned in to a bit of a rant, just sometimes get arrogated by people who try and separate TS women from women. It is like telling a woman she is no longer a woman if she loses the ability to have a child or has to have her breasts removed or telling a man he is no longer a man if his penis has to be removed to save his life. Sexual organs are a SMALL part of what should make up sex or gender.

This is of course all my opinion and I do want you to know I am not attacking you and I respect your opinion but I love a good debate and I love standing strong on things I believe in. Many civilizations and Native American tribes revered and even worshiped transsexuals in the past saying they were of two souls and to be cherished.

Not to bring religion in to this too much but I am friends with many Christians and as many know I am a pagan. Among the disputes I have with these friends is the fact that I am transsexual. A few like to joke saying I can't be a witch or truly do the spells that say you have to be female because I was born "male" which is far from true medically and mentally. I in an annoyed joking manner asked them, if they descended from their bodies as a spiritual being of light, what gender they would be. They seem confused and I came again with, "If your spirit in your religion seems to be one of the most important aspects, shouldn't the soul mean more than the physical body. The flesh stays here; the soul is what lives on forever. My soul is female, so how would your god treat in me in such a case?" The response was amusing.

The thing that eventually was asked was, "God doesn't make mistakes, why did he makes you a boy if he wanted you to be a girl." again I replied with a bit of a smirk, "For the same reason he would make a legless boy who competes in the Olympics and wins. "

Actually I have 2 genetic girls that I force feminize. They like being butch - they don't like wearing makeup and fixing their hair or doing their nails. I put them in little pink out fits with pentifores and treat them like a 7 year old girl.

Also as our sticky discussion states - nothing is "truly" forced. It's all consensual and mostly role play. But I know many post op transsexuals that are very fetish and love role play, age play and forced feminization.

Feminization doesn't necessarily mean turn them female - it's more about feminine expression and finding stereotypical female roles and behaviors. I also know that not all girls are necessarily feminine - so I could "force" someone into some jeans and t-shirt and call it feminization. I could - but it's not in the spirit of the fetish or interest.

Some people like it - some people don't - but we don't need to start putting labels on who should or shouldn't or would or wouldn't do it.

Feminization is not JUST for genetic boys or boys that identify as female - it's for everyone that finds it a little mentally stimulating.

On the religion comment (and if you don't believe in God then you can skip it this comment) - Further this is off topic even a better reason to skip it . But I'll say it anyways - I don't believe God makes mistakes - and if you were born a boy and feel you should have been a girl - I think it's arrogant to think He made a mistake. Maybe it was part of His plan for you to bring the light all these points so that we could all learn to live together harmoniously. A struggle of a transgendered person can raise awareness and compassion in people not only to our struggles but to those of others. I hate that I was born a guy but maybe I wouldn't have appreciated being female as much if I were born female - I don't know - but I don't believe God made a mistake - maybe you don't like His decision to make an example out of some of us - but well that's what God does - it's all through the Bible old and new testament.

"I don't believe God makes mistakes - and if you were born a boy and feel you should have been a girl - I think it's arrogant to think He made a mistake."

From that perspective... God doesn't make mistakes, he did it on purpose.

It is arrogant, beyond BELIEF that ANY human could possibly understand God's Intent. If you believe in God, you have to assume that He made every single person the way they are.

It is up to US to decide how to deal with what He gave us. HOWEVER, it is NOT our responsibility to conform to "society's" view of what we SHOULD be, based on the way our body happens to be configured.

And if you want to go down that path... If God created us in His image, I wonder what that says about those of us that are TS, or TG, or Hermaphrodites... I suppose that means that he is all of those things too? In which case... what's the problem?

I honestly wish there was a better term for what we are. I don't like anything with the word 'trans' in it. Because that implies that I was one gender, and decided to switch to the other. The idea of transitioning seems very strange to me. For me, feminizing would be a process of not hiding who I really am, rather than something I would have to work at, learn, or medically alter. I am and always have been a female, but I've chosen to hide behind male clothing for so long, it's hard for me to imagine doing anything else.

I've come to understand that simply putting on the clothing will never define my gender. There are lots of people out there wearing dresses who aren't actually female, and there are also lots of females wearing male clothing. What matters first and foremost is how you see yourself.

Some religions (Hinduism, for example) would certainly ascribe transgender or hermaphroditic characteristics to God. If there are any trans religious folks out there, you should definitely do some reading about non-Abrahamic paths to God.

As for the main discussion, I'm not sure how to explain my own experiences. Mistress has helped and encourages my transition. She tells me I'm beautiful and that what she wants is for me to be happy, and we both agree that this is what achieves that. I started down this road before she and I were involved, and I'm not reliant on her to break my barriers down or anything. Regardless, she’s a tremendous source of encouragement. Her love makes me want to be a better woman.

I can be a pretty big flamboyant glamour-puss all on my own; even dressed down en-femme I prefer corsets and heels with my shirts/blouses and slacks, and I love big beautiful wigs. The "force femme" in our relationship comes from Mistress's gentle insistence that I remain en-femme as much as absolutely possible, and from the bimboification/sissification/dollification elements in which I'm expected to bury my ego and become a frilly, servile plaything. That isn't always on. The other way in which I identify with this terminology is her training me to become more sexually effeminate; I'm a receiver now, and my clit is for teasing (and vibing/stimulation if She's pleased), not penetrating anything. That's been mind-blowing. It's the best I've ever had.

The topic about, are TS women really forced to be feminine is and has been on my mind for some time. I agree we were programmed by society, family and church to be men since our gender was stated as male when we were born. That’s just a physical description of us not who we were or are. For some most traits taught to us, to be men, is to a degree with work possible to de-program. But it is not really a complete de-programming. We still have some male traits that keep surfacing without our knowledge and sometimes at the least opportune times. To be forced to be ultra fem, bimboification/sissification/dollification or even a maid of servitude is something we would not do on a normal basis. This is not how we live day to day but it does instill in us even more feminine attributes. I agree it is a form of forced feminization even when we live as women.